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[theosolangel]

Spiritualists, tell me, what might it mean when two pianos that have been in the family for generations are heard playing - mostly at night? One, a Bechstein grand built in 1880 has a history of doing this.

It happens when there is stress or trauma in the house.

There are other inexplicable phenomena as well, but first things first.

[Tomcat]

Sounds to me like a ghost or spirit but I wouldn't rule out poltergeist activity.

If it's a ghost or spirit sounds to like it may have attacked itself (or themselves) to the piano/s [I'm assuming they were moved from on house to another at one point]. Some spirits can pick up on moods and this one may.

I have few questions that would help in figuring out what is going on.

1. Have these pianos been moved over the years from one house to another or have they always been in the house?

2.Were these pianos new when they were acquired or were they used?

3. Is there any history of poltergiest activity in the family?

4. What are these "inexplicable phenomena" you're refering to? If it's ghostly phenomena is may be important.

[Liam]

theosolangel said:

Spiritualists, tell me, what might it mean when two pianos that have been in the family for generations are heard playing - mostly at night? One, a Bechstein grand built in 1880 has a history of doing this.
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The patent answer is that someone is playing the piano.
Asuming it is not a mortal living person, and, or that there is nobody visible atr the keyboard, then it is still the same answer.
Someone is playing the piano.
Pianos are a living instrument, especially the glorious, classic Bechstein Grand - arguably the best piano in the world, but alas not built since the factory was destroyed by WW2 bombing.
I sense the other piano is an Australian classic, the Beale from the Wollongong NSW family of piano-makers?
I sense, too, that you play with heart, soul, spirit.
A piano, played earnestly, with compassion, indellibly absorbs the emotions of the player, the music.
A musician sits at the keyboard at varying times: to express joy, sorrow, frustration, sadness, jubilation, loneliness, love, anger, grief, exultation, celebration.
Sometimes just one of these emotions. Othertimes, a combination or some or all.
Will there one day be a tiresome scientific explanation? Akin to the heat left by a body? Akin to Kirlian photography?
I much prefer the soul spirit of emotion, tne soulmusic, the notion that a Bechstein Grand and a Beale Upright can be heard in duet. True soulmusic.
How might I know? I can empathise.
- Liam
Sure, Theosolangel, first things first:

[roland]

Just a thought or three... Don't know if anyone is actually checking this thread anymore... but..

Music is a really dense and complex form of information. Consisting of a multitude of sounds waves with various amplitudes and intensity. Over time, I'm sure the pianos themselves seem to have a certain presence to them. One might think of them as symbols of history... Or... a storage device of some sort. They have history, so... it's gotta be stored somewhere.

You know how you leave a computer on with the same screen for too long, it becomes engrained in the screen?
The history of the image has become a permanent.
Sorta like history is a big part of the pianos pianos you mentioned.

not that the two are necessary, but it does imply a potential polarization, or magnet type thing. (but that's physics... I'd have to do more research) Anyhow.

So.. With all the history, and all the sound waves, and all the emotional kinetic energy that the pianos have made, I'm sure they've probably left a sort of imprint in the actual space around them. It sounds like a leap.. But you know how when a bulb burns out, it takes a while for the light image to dissapate (sp?) from your vision. Like staring at the sun.

So... There are these imprints and what have you. Get stressed people around it, and a lot of energy is created. Static, anger, what have you.. but.. the intensity of the situation is tangible. Add to that that the energy itself is probably not specifically directed, it's going to travel to wherever it is best expressed and expressable. ie. Two pianos playing at night.

I'd imagine that the people involved were unsure of what each were fighting about. Probably had escalated emotions, which probably went past their ability to even communicate, let alone communicate clearly.
The physics of it is what I'd recommend looking at it.
Also the metaphor to how it was expressed.
The people influencing it are probably expressing a REALLY old issue between them, and feel like they aren't being heard and just want to feel respected.

not that it qualifies me, but.. I've been playing piano since I was 2... pretty much at the same time or right before I aquired english..

those my 2 cents

[theosolangel]

Thankyou Liam, Roland for your responses.

No, although I have been hovering, watching, hoping for a response somewhere above the usual juvenile 'Dungeons & Dragons" and "Ghosts and Ghoulies" fantasy, I stress my interest is alive. This thread is not dead. Nor is the experience. It has grown, but whatever the higher dimensional paradigm, the inherent melodic tonal joy of the music played has lapsed melancholy as if it were seeking cello company.

I know the reason for this.

Heaven knows what I expected when I shared this experience last year.

Perhaps I'd hoped that somewhere out on the World Wide Web there might be intelligent and mature life beyond the usual devalung steretypical fundamentalist "Gee whiz, golly, ghosts, ghoulies" spiritual anthropomorphology that confines the pubescent mind forever to the plastic conformity of the world of the Gnostics and the post Third Century profit-takers above prophets and people myth-makers like Walter Scott, Walt Disney, Tolkien, Bill Gates, George W Bush, Rupert Murdoch - and whoever it was that lacked inspiration so but perceived obscene profit in reviving medieval role-playing games that filled the mindless vacuum created by digital video short-attention-span technology.

The responses to this thread have been scant. This is OK. The quality of the few has not been conclusive, but it has contributed to my dwelling within and without the experience.

My dimensional knowledge is circular. I continue with this experience despite a synchronous separation, an apartness of the instruments that parallels the human principals presently alive, involved, who are also sadly apart.

For what it's worth, the pianos have lived in disparate, different and distant houses; but within the same two families, the same hearts.

Both instruments have been in the same two families, have not changed hands beyond the initial craftsmen transactions when the pianos were purchased from the workishops, one in Germany in 1880, the other in Sydney, Australia, some 60 years later.

Roland, your thesis is valued. Thank you/

[roland]

hey,

maybe the pianos are in love.

that idea kinda makes my heart break, and also makes me want to go get a puppy.

Maybe you should get a pet?

[blackheart3]

well according to my research pulterguised type activity can somtimes be coused by the subcoincuos wile under stress.


p.s.- but then again im not an expert or anything